Transcribed from “Mark The Rabbit Hole” Radio Show with Mark Metheny. Guest: William Stickevers
(Airdate: October 6, 2016)
Mark Metheny: Good evening, welcome to Mark The Rabbit Hole. Tonight our guest will be William Stickevers and he will be joining us shortly. We’re going to do our final look at the election and the polls, where they are now compared to when we started this earlier. William’s been on a few times previously talking about this. So I think our guest is there — William, is that you?
William Stickevers: That’s me. Hi, Mark.
Mark: How’s it going, my friend?
William: Good, good. Going great. How are you?
Mark: Good. Just enjoying the energies out there.
William: Yeah, there’s a lot going on. It’s been unrelenting. An unrelenting summer, and the fall has just been going full throttle with acceleration, pedal to the metal.
Mark: Yes, so I guess, first of all, I know some of the listeners know you but why don’t you give us your website and where they can find you and all that good stuff.
William: I’m at WilliamStickevers.com. I’m also listed on Facebook and I post many of my predictions there as well. I can be reached through that platform. As you know, Mark, I’m not only a regular personal consulting astrologer, part of my living practice is doing mundane astrology so I’m not just an astrologer who comes up every four years and decides I’m going to make a prediction on the general election. I’m predicting on world events, political affairs, financial matters, economic matters, almost weekly. So it’s a big part of my practice here.
Mark: Good. I know you’ve got a mundane or horary class going on right now?
William: Yeah, right now I have a 9-week mundane class that is designed for intermediate to world-class professionals; I’ve actually scaled it in such a way. And we’re covering every known technique including the history of mundane astrology up until the latest state-of-the-art techniques that have a consistent and proven track record of 65 percent or greater. I think everyone is learning a lot; I’m certainly learning a lot. Especially when you have to teach something, and articulate it and put together a PowerPoint presentation that’s not going to be boring, that’s going to build upon itself, that’s going to keep everyone interested and informed, and something that they can apply to their practice immediately was a big challenge for me. But I’ve been having a great time doing it and I’m getting a lot of great feedback from my students who, also, some of them happen to be world class mundane, world class financial astrologers. So it’s really great. Half my class is international; the other half is America-based.
Mark: Awesome. So if anyone needs more details, is there going to be a second round of this class coming up?
William: Absolutely. We’re going to be doing it next year, and I’m going to include some new additional material which I could not include in this one because it required more prep time. Also, in these classes, especially in this one, we are having in a couple weeks our guest lecturer is Theodore White who is going to go over the fundamentals of weather forecasting with the class. So he’s going to run that class and I’m just going to be participating and listening and learning. So we’re very excited about that; we’re all big fans of Theodore. I know you are as well. And in the future I’m going to include some other people to maybe talk about earthquake prediction, volcano prediction, people with those specialties.
As you know, my specialty is more political and economics; that seems to be where I’m drawn and focused to and pulled toward, actually. But mundane is such a broad, broad subject; it covers so many things and it’s very fascinating. Unfortunately, the word is “mundane”, which means something very contemporary, boring, ordinary. But mundane astrology is quite the opposite, quite different than what the title suggests. And I know my students, many of them have taken personal astrology pretty far. Many of them who are intermediates and even dabbling or considering doing a full-time practice have realized, ‘I don’t think I can do too much more with personal astrology or psychological astrology; I need to broaden my understanding, my world view’ and they thought learning mundane was a great way for this to happen. So because it broadens their perspective and so they can understand there are other forces outside the personal sphere of influence that are actually having an impact in people’s decision-making, and that is something that — I think we’ve had many discussions about this on other shows, and I know we’ve talked about this one-to-one — is something that’s really marginalized and overlooked or not even discussed in natal astrology.
Mark: Yes, yes, people are often stunned when I tell them that I have charts of all the professional sports teams and all the countries and that it’s not just looking at a person’s horoscope or birth chart but that government agencies have charts, restaurants that you eat at have charts, every business has a chart. So people are usually surprised when I tell them that and so it’s not just the workings of your chart that you can look at but you can look at events and elections, sporting events, whatever, and see how there’s different energies playing and there’s charts for the specific events too. And I think people, especially the astrology naysayers are surprised that it’s not just fluffy unicorns and “stay away from Virgos today” and that kind of stuff. I think that catches people off-guard when they know how much detail you can go into.
William: Absolutely. And you know, what I find amazing is– there’re two types of people outside of astrology in terms of mundane. Many people find it fascinating when you can talk with such authority and detail looking at history backwards for justification of planetary alignments with events that changed the course, game-changing events or watershed events in history, and then talking about the future in a very informed, detailed way and how the future is actually impacting and informing the present. And then so there’s that group who is really fascinated, and there’s another group of people out there who are really threatened by it. I mean really threatened by it, almost as if you were talking about Bernie [Sanders] to a rabid George Bush supporter. So it goes one way or the other.
Now, what I find interesting about astrology is that many people who do natal, non-predictive natal astrology, many of them who are practicing psychotherapists or MSW workers, they are very ambivalent about really stating their opinion [on mundane astrology]. In fact, when you go to these [astrology] conferences, you see the rooms for sun sign astrology lectures filled up and packed to the brink. Secondary progressions, you can’t get a waiting seat. Come to big transits, forget about it — you’re going to have to find an alternative track for the 2 o’clock period. But mundane is only, what, like 10-15 people there with a room that could fill 50. And I just find this really fascinating.
It’s actually disconcerting to me and I just don’t understand what’s going on with the body-politic of astrologers these days when there’s so much going on in the world, that everything is being turned upside-down, inside-out, economically, politically, socially, on every level. And yet, the astrology world — you know, Mark. I’ve been to all these conferences since the early ’90s; it’s not like I’m not in the know. I know. I know all these top speakers; they know me on a first-name basis. So here’s the thing: the astrologers in general, as a group — and I’m not pointing anyone out in particular — are not keeping up with the bigger trends. They just seem to be disengaged and disinterested. And maybe there was a reason for that, because it was “stick it to the man”, “who cares about what’s going on”, right, maybe that hippie/Baby Boomer attitude and world view was responsible for that.
But today that’s obsolete. We’ve gotten past the point of plausible deniability. Things are really not going right in so many ways, which I know we’re going to discuss. So I think it’s fascinating that a lot of people in the astrology world, there’s a small but growing minority of people getting drawn into mundane. Even if they don’t plan to make mundane their living practice, they want to know what it’s about, what it has to say, how mundane archetypal portents influence the archetypal landscape and shape and inform the world stage. So they think it’s important now because they see something is going on and it’s very upsetting, frightening. In fact, for all intents and purposes, we’re in the Twilight Zone.
Mark: I agree. One of the things to me is that astrology is several thousand years old. I mean, to me one of our jobs is to keep it evolving and moving forward and keep testing ideas and make sure that Uranus, Aquarius rules astrology, so we need to keep that evolving and I just think, I run across a lot of ideology where they just want to keep it stuck or back into the old ideas and concepts without developing it any. And so to me the predicting earthquakes, tsunamis, earth changes, and things is one of the most relevant and helpful things we can do to help keep evolving astrology.
And also, I’ve seen a few comments where someone like you will, say, has made some predictions, and people get upset and say “oh, so you want this to happen” and it startles me that some people are not able to look past their personal preferences or how they would like things to turn out, and they just try to bend things to what their preconceived idea is. And I think this election has been a great example of this because it’s not gone at all how I expected. But I think you’re one of the few people who’s had your finger really on the pulse of what’s been happening and not been blinded by their preconceptions. So, kudos to you on that one.
William: Oh, thank you very much. I appreciate that. And you know, I tell you something, one of the things I teach my students is that we need to be nonpartisan and independent in our thinking, in our viewpoints. Let the testimonies speak for themselves. If we are weighing them properly and we are being as objective as we can — and it’s very difficult to do that — but if we do that, we’re going to be within about the 80th percentile of accuracy. We’re not always going to be right, and nobody is.
Just keep in mind that the greatest stock market trader Bill Gross — he’s one of the best bond traders in the world — is only right 53 percent of the time. You only need to be right 53 percent of the time in order to make billions of dollars in the stock market, to have it all, to have your cake and eat it too on Wall Street. And you know, 53 percent is a landslide in politics.
So, you know, the expectation of the mainstream media experts and critics of astrology out there is like, “no, unless it’s 99.9999999 percent, this doesn’t work.” You could be 80 percent, “nope, still doesn’t cut it.”
So, I’m telling people here and my students, stick with the astrology. If you want to make an argument or a speculation that a certain thing will manifest in such a way, you need to prove it out with me. You need to show me multiple testimonies, multiple techniques. You can’t just say one thing. You have to layer it and build it up. You have to think vertically here, meaning you can’t just say a one-testimony, one-chart, one-transit approach does all, says all, is all. And that’s basically what we’ve been fed, at least I know I’ve been fed for the past 30 years.
And you know, the only reason I’ve been more on the pulse of the election is because I’ve been just looking at the mundane portents and I’ve known — and this is something that Theodore White and I discussed back this time last year — we knew it was going to be an establishment candidate backed by the American oligarchical elite, that would be [Jeb] Bush or Hillary Clinton, versus a populist candidate. So we eliminated very early on that [Jeb] Bush would be the nominee. And we also eliminated that Bernie would be the nominee. So we knew that it would be Hillary versus a Uranus-Pluto dark horse candidate that was going to turn everything upside-down, inside-out, destroy the body-politic of the nation. And that’s why we — well, I certainly came to the conclusion first, and Theodore followed up shortly thereafter, came to the conclusion that it was going to be Trump. And Trump is the beginning of the first phase, or a category one social revolution. This is not just another election like 99 percent of the astrologers — and I’m going to keep saying that, I know that’s a lot of people — but 99 percent of the astrologers kept framing it as another Bush-Gore election 2000, except on steroids. No! No! No! No! NO! This is not just another election. We’re seeing [the first phase of] a social revolution.
Just the fact of what had to happen in order for Trump to be the nominee. The fact that Hillary Clinton technically lost that campaign and is still the nominee, has completely medically collapsed and wasn’t disqualified after she was medically diagnosed with pneumonia is just startling. Also, we are seeing the populist rise, the populist or the nationalist versus the Establishment and the Oligarchy. This is a collision, a titanic collision of an immovable object with an unstoppable force, and they’re colliding here [in 2016]. This is just the beginning of things to come, folks!
I know you are aware of this, Mark, but I’m just talking here to your audience here. It’s just the beginning….and you haven’t seen nothing yet. This is just a prelude. And I proved this out in my Mundane Astrology class. My students have recently come to understand the rules [of analysis] behind ingress charts, eclipses, and other mundane [astrology] rules. I asked them if you just look at [and apply] the rules and assume nothing else, does it tell you that the party in power or the establishment in power, [minus the oligarchical dimension behind who is really running the government,] will remain or stay in power? Is that likely, more or less? And most everyone in class was in general agreement, stating “yeah, you’re right, I hate to say it,” but it looks like the party in power or the [party that is the] facade of the establishment is NOT likely to stay in power. Now having said that, does that mean that Trump instantly wins? No, it doesn’t. But it means that right from the outset the party in power – the Democrats had a structural problem, from a mundane perspective. A structural problem.
Mark: Yeah, right, right, I agree because it was going back to the 2008 elections which was, I believe shortly after, I think Uranus had just entered Aries if I’m not mistaken, and so it was kind of obvious who the Uranian candidate was at that point.
William: Yeah, and the other thing too is that the Civil Rights Movement occurred in the 1960s. From ’62 to ’72 the Civil Rights Movement really unfolded and was one of the game-changing socio-political developments in the nation. And that had to do with the Uranus-Pluto conjunction, and then [in 2008] you had the approaching Uranus-Pluto square and the rise of Barack Obama who as a black candidate who was born during the emergence of the Uranus-Pluto conjunction and was an ideal expression for that Uranus-Pluto energy that began to manifest in 2008.
But unfortunately he didn’t quite live up to the energy. I mean, he got the job, he got the position because of the energy that was constellating for hope and change you can believe in, right, but it didn’t quite turn out that way. In fact, I would say that — and again this is going to upset a lot of people — that Barack Obama is essentially an establishment candidate, and establishment president who had the backing and the support of America’s Oligarchical Elite. Also, he carries out that oligarchical agenda that essentially sets the policy for this nation and other nations abroad, domestically, internationally, and financially. And he basically rubber stamps their globalist agenda into policy, and he is really no different than his predecessor G.W. Bush.
Mark: Yeah, I have to agree with that. And you’re right, that’s probably going to ruffle a lot of feathers and I’ve gotten into many discussions like that. But the thing that I look at is, regardless of what party is in power, does the advancement of the One State, the oligarchy agenda keep moving forward? I mean, Obama said he would get rid of NAFTA. I, until recently, had to cover the local newspaper right before the 2008 election he was here in Columbus, Ohio, where I was, and his main topic was getting rid of NAFTA. And now eight years later, not only have we not gotten rid of NAFTA, but now we’re going to cram the TPP down people’s throats.
So, it just doesn’t, nothing ever goes in our favor. It always goes towards the One World Government and no matter who the president is or who the candidates are or what they look like of where they’re from or what creed or nationality, whoever gets in there advances that agenda.
William: Correct. I totally agree. It’s certainly been that case since the assassination of John F. Kennedy, which was basically a coup d’état for all intents and purposes, and that’s pretty much been proven out [in a Congressional Investigation in the 1970s] that there was a conspiracy, and it was never followed up and investigated with.
But what we see now with this Uranus-Pluto still very active, that is the rise of a dark horse candidate which, as you know, that a majority of the mundane astrology world and most of the astrology world in general just refuses to come to terms with. And it has to do with Trump’s brazen style and character.
In fact, I was joking around for a long time using the term “Trumpzilla” because whoever gets in his way, he just seems to pulverize them [with his “atomic breath”]. In fact, the harder the media hits him, the stronger he gets in the polls. In fact, [recently] CNN jokingly pushed up an image of Godzilla with Trump, calling him “Trumpzilla”. I took a snapshot and posted it.
Mark: I saw that.
William: Yeah. And so, I’ve been calling him Trumpzilla and I’ve been writing “Trumpzilla is the Uranus-Pluto dark horse candidate that the astrology world refuses to come to terms with” and needs to wake up about. They really need to wake up to the reality of what Trump represents.
I’m not talking about Donald Trump the Candidate and what he says. I’m talking about the impact he’s having and how he is constellating by activating the suppressed rage in the country on a collective level, which has reached a neurotic level of intensity, bordering on psychosis, as the archetypal energy continues to change, accelerate, and intensify. Trump is playing this out perfectly. He’s breaking every [political] rule. The more outrageous he is — meaning, the he continues proposing extreme solutions, which was very Uranus-Pluto, the stronger his support gets. We knew Bernie was doing that as well, but Trump takes the cake.
Also, you’ve got to realize too, folks — and I’m going to remind everyone listening here, because we just take the assumption that Trump was going to be the nominee so what’s the big deal?” Right? In fact, that is not that’s not the case at all. Keep in mind that when Trumpzilla announced he was going to run for president, almost every political pundit and almost every astrologer for that matter, stated that he would politically implode and fade away and kept stating that all the way into mid-March. You know what I’m talking about, Mark, right?
Mark: Yep, absolutely. And even, I mean, it was so crazy even I wasn’t quite sure. I was like, “Is this going to end at some point?” But you’re right, you kept just moving forward with “you guys aren’t looking at the energy, you’re trying to force your preconceived notions” — which I was doing a little bit too, and as the groundswell kept happening, I thought “Oh my gosh, William’s right; he’s tapped into this.”
William: Well, let me finish this because I just wanted your confirmation because some people think I just make this up and I’m trying to grand stand and pat myself on the back. And you know that’s not the case, because I know you’ve been following my work and I’m really very grateful that I’m here to speak on your show about it.
The thing is that when Trumpzilla started piling up the victories in the primaries, the very same pundits and astrologers stated he would never get the GOP nomination. And I remember the astrologers saying, “Okay, William, you were right this time, BUT he’s never going to get the nomination, they’ll never give it to him, they’re going to break the rules, they’re going to rob him, [and besides] he’ll never get the delegates.” And then when Trumpzilla won the GOP nomination, many of his critics warned that if he ended up on the November ballot he would get blown out by Hillary Clinton and take out scores of Republicans running for the House and Senate with him, meaning it would be a complete disaster on the ticket. In fact, just the other day, the great political forecaster Damon Linker, a senior correspondent at TheWeek.com, along with several other astrologers who were loosely quoting from him said, “Trump isn’t merely going to lose; he’s going to lose in the biggest popular vote landslide in modern presidential history. It’s not crazy to even think he will finish with less than 35 percent of the popular vote.”
And then you had astrologers pushing that around. This was just a week or two ago. And the fact of the matter is that we do have enough raw political data coming in statistically on how Trump has been doing. I’m not just talking about national polls; I’m talking at the local level in all the key battleground states. And not just the key battleground states, in the key battleground counties of those battleground states. And to the surprise of many, especially in Washington, and to the shock of the astrologers, he is hasn’t been doing badly at all. In fact, he is doing pretty well because the polls are showing he is now slightly ahead in the battleground states of Ohio, Florida, Iowa, North Carolina, Colorado, and he’s tied with Hillary as of today in Nevada. He was slightly ahead a week ago; he’s now tied but he’s holding his own. And he just left Nevada on a two-day tour there.
Keep in mind, Trump should be getting killed in these states, and Hillary should be — at this point with the money, the ads, the backing of the oligarchy backing, CNN (the “Clinton News Network”) and the entire legacy mainstream media — she should be 50 points ahead of him at this point!
You know, even recent polls have shown Trump now pulling ahead. He’s basically tied and pulling ahead in Pennsylvania. He’s even with her in New Hampshire. He’s tied with her in Virginia. He pulled slightly ahead in Colorado. But Pennsylvania is a state that Hillary Clinton needs to win. In all the key battleground counties that have the most accurate trend prediction rate all show Trump ahead by 8-12 points, not one point.
So, it just doesn’t make sense [that Hillary is winning]. I mean, you’re talking about Michigan here. Trump is one point behind in Michigan, tied in Wisconsin. He’s only four points behind in New Mexico.
I mean, look, folks, it is clear that the astrological community, the pundits, the media have overestimated Hillary’s campaign and tremendously marginalized and underestimated Trump’s campaign thus far. And nobody has really been talking about this.
Mark: I agree. I figured she would be way ahead at this point and I have something that I’ve talked about a couple of the other shows that you’ve been on and a couple other shows I’ve been on. There’s just been this tendency to write off — and first of all, I’m going to say I have no intention of voting for Trump, I am not a Trump supporter, I tend to vote third party, every election since I’ve been alive I think I’ve voted third party — but it’s just this rush to judgement to write off all of his followers as white trash, racist, trailer park dwellers. And perhaps there is, there may be a percentage, as politically incorrect as that is, there may be a percentage that maybe fit that category.
But what I keep telling my Democrat friends is that what you are not seeing is you have to put yourself in the shoes of people who have been Republicans for a long time. You have to take a look at Romney, who took a dive at the end. They threw in McCain in ’08, that flip-flopped so many times that you couldn’t trust him. In ’04 that was Bush Jr.’s second term, and he barely won but by half that second term most of the Republicans, old school or not, were not very happy with him. Bush Jr. won in 2000, Dole in ’96 — I don’t think anybody feels that Dole was a strong candidate. Then we had Bush Sr. who won in ’88 and got beaten fairly badly in ’92.
So, for the people who are Republicans, I don’t think that they feel — and I’ve said this 50 times and I know everyone has ignored it the first 50 times but I’m going to be that idiot who says it a 51st time — I don’t think the old school, the average middle-class Republican voter feels that they have gotten a fair shake or had a decent candidate in the last seven elections, since, I’ll go back to say since Reagan was the last candidate that was really well liked by the Republican party. I think Bush the first time it was kind of a “oh, well, he’s [Bush] Sr.’s son” and all that stuff, and there’s this, I think, a large group of Trump supporters are these people who have said “I have had enough of getting screwed” — not by the Democrats, they’re not pissed off at the Democrats. They’re pissed off at their own party for putting up crap candidates every four years, and the decent candidates that they do have early on in the primaries, they push them to the side when they have a Ron Paul or somebody who is a good candidate, they just put them to the side at the debates, ask them two questions in a three-hour debate, all this stuff. And I think a portion of Trump’s supporters are the people who have finally said, “I’ve had it. You’ve screwed me for seven or eight elections in a row, and we’re going to sink the Titanic so that hopefully we can rebuild it” because the Republican party leaders were not at all in any shape or form listening to their constituents. And I’m sure no one heard that. But I said it again anyways.
William: (laughs) Well, here’s the thing. Let’s get into the particulars. Mark, I sent you a link where I posted the charts for this show. [Charts posted below] And for those of you who are not in front of the internet just to let you know, it’s WilliamStickevers.com/marktherabbithole and it has all the graphs I want to discuss.
My approach, my argument on how I see the election going down, I’m looking at all three different [birth] times for Hillary using my Blackbox forecasting technology that’s very accurate. We use it quite often in making financial trading decisions and investing. It’s one of the great technologies that Alphee Lavoie needs to get more credit for.
I also just want to mention this before, I have to say this. Trump is not a Republican. I mean, he’s running on the platform of the Republican party but everybody knows he is not a Republican. He is basically a Trumpzilla, Uranus-Pluto dark horse candidate, an aberration of the collective unconscious of the nation that is now in a neurotic breakdown that has captured or heisted the nomination from the GOP establishment (that is basically backed by the Bush faction of the American oligarchical elite) who is basically have a platform and foreign policy that goes actually counter to a majority of GOP narratives that were established for the past 60 years.
So I just want to state again, I’m neutral on this all. I am nonpartisan. I am not for either party. But Trump is GOP in title only.
Mark: Right, right. So I just posted that link to William’s website to the page that has these charts and graphs he’s talking about. I just posted it in the chat room and on my Facebook page and I’ll post it on the Rabbit Hole Facebook page as well so you don’t have to go digging for them you can just click on that link.
So, go right ahead, William.
William: Yeah, so basically, everyone is like “I don’t get it. Why does Trump have all this, what is the demand there? What is all this popularity? Why do they listen to him?” And I keep basically stating this — that we never had an economic recovery. That was basically, the economic crisis, the Lehman meltdown that resulted in the near-collapse of the American and global economy but that was vanguard by the fraudulence that was going on Wall Street and the Fed backed by Washington, with Washington’s blessings, almost destroyed the financial world.
They basically paved it over and they covered it up. They put the damage control into place and they kept the game of “extend and pretend” going. Then they got the media who is part of the oligarchical mouthpiece to pontificate and convince, especially the astrologers out there, that a recovery occurred starting June 2009 and had been achieved by [Spring] 2016. However, when we look at macroeconomic data, especially global trade worldwide, we see on this graph here [shown above] that we’ve are seeing a complete collapse. The source for the graph is from the World Bank, Goldman Sachs, Global Investment Research. These are the very people that backed the Bushes, and Hillary, by the way.
So what we’ve seen is a four-year rolling sensitivity of real trade growth collapsing in real GDP terms. And we see here the U.S. recession where there was a downturn, a trough, in 1960-61. The oil shock in ’79. And then we see when the Soviet Union disintegrates in ’91, you see the global economy really taking off and everything peaking by the late ’90s, early 2000. And then we see a series of downward motion of the wave pattern. Then we see China’s entry into the World Trade Organization, 2001. And then we have a collapse that occurred in 2008, and then we see all this money printing and injection of liquidity into the system, with interest rates pushed down to almost zero percent worldwide. In fact, now they’re negative worldwide with the exception of this country, and the Federal Reserve is talking about even going negative next year! What you are seeing here is the Obama Recovery in 2016, at a point lower than at any time since 1947 when they started tracking Global Trade.
So [in essence] we are seeing a complete collapse in the global economy. And there was no recovery — there was a cover-up.
Now I could show 40, 50 graphs to prove this out further. Mark, [in previous shows] you’ve seen me go at it one graph after the other. We have 25 percent underemployment in this country. We have 47 percent of the people who get subsidized by the U.S. government who don’t pay federal taxes. We have 96.7 million people who no longer get unemployment who fell off the workforce radar; they’ve given up looking for work. And we only have 155 million people working out of a population of 327 million — or 320 million, depending on what source you use. And of that 155 million working, 25 percent is underemployed, meaning they have to work two or three jobs and they still cannot pay the mortgage, and they’re barely paying the rent.
And inflation, by the way, they keep saying it’s 1-2 percent. When you look at the real numbers, the way the Federal Reserve was calculating inflation up until 1990, inflation is about 7-8 percent a year. And it was actually 11 percent between 2008 and 2012.
Salaries haven’t been raised since 1991. The United States economy has decreased in size three-fold since 199, a three-fold breakdown! The deleveraging of the middle class since 2008 has been tremendous. It hasn’t recovered.
And you have 40 percent of Millennials living at home, and the ones who are not living at home are all shacked up with five other people in a two-bedroom.
So, you know, things are not going well. For anyone who’s still a naysayer [that the economy hasn’t recovered], I can inundate you with 27 statistics that will blow your mind.
But here’s the point — all of this is driving the Trump campaign. The country is in a demoralized state, and in a state of neurotic breakdown because there was no direction, no future. The moment when people freak out on a personal or mass level is when they know it’s not going to get better. It’s not when things are bad. The moment they know it’s not going to get better when THEY LOSE IT, and that’s when you see what’s happening now. That’s when you see Hitler come to power. That’s when you see the British Exit. That’s when you see the rise of Donald Trump, Trumpzilla. That’s all because it’s being generated by a collapsing economy that is accelerating and intensifying as the train wreck unfolds.
I think it’s really really clear at this point. And there’s no magic [to fix it]. It’s all in the secular data. And that is something that 90 percent of the astrologers keep continuing to overlook, as they keep focused at the natal horoscopes and not realizing what else is there – they don’t look at the secular data.
If you don’t correlate what the outer planetary alignments and the ingresses and the eclipse charts and the charts of the top G-11 or G-8 nations, with the secular trends you’re not going to understand what is driving the populism since 2011, since we had the Arab Spring. And look at all the protests that were occurring in Europe.
And look at the protests on Wall Street, what was it called? We would talk about this a few years back.
Mark: The Occupy Movement.
William: Right – the Occupy Wall Street Movement, where what came out of the was the One Percent and the 99 Percent. So everyone knows today, “Yeah, I’m the 99 percent.” And who’s the One Percent? Well, that’s a mystery; you can’t talk about that. We know how many people are the One Percent, but we don’t know who they are. And that’s the oligarchy. And the people that run the oligarchy are the 0.1 percent of the One Percent.
Then [in 2013] you have the NSA revelations of Edward Snowden that came out that have turned the geopolitical world inside-out, upside-down. And there’s more revelations every day. And then you have Wikileaks, along with all the uprisings and shootings [in the country]. It goes on and on. The unemployment continues to accelerate while they continue to state that unemployment is now at four percent. That is why you have a Donald Trump [as the GOP nominee ] today, folks.
So, astrologers, get with the reality! You just don’t seem to get it! I’m not the only guy. Mark’s been telling you, I’ve been telling you, Theodore White’s been telling you There’s been a lot of astrologers telling you, and you’re just simply refusing to get it. So that’s step one. I want to get to the next thing.
Look at what’s going on right now. The S&P 500 return of the presidential elections. So when the S&P 500 price between July 31 and October 31 is net negative, that is a very reliable indicator that the party in power, seeking re-election, will lose or they’ll be completely replaced. And as of today, it is net negative. Back in 2012, it was a very close race between Obama and Romney. But the S&P returns were 2.4 percent in the black. Now it is something like 3.2 percent in the red. And so the prediction probability that the party in power will be completely replaced — because this is not a re-election, this is a referendum election on the Obama Administration’s past two terms so it’s a replacement election — is 86 percent right now. And we’re not even talking about astrology yet. Eighty-six percent! There’s a structural problem right now from an economic level, from a financial level as well. So when the astrologers say ‘Hillary wins no matter what and they get to say that and pontificate that because they write for the Huffington Post’ — and you know who I’m talking about here — they continue to misinform the public and the astrological community [about the true state of affairs in the country].
Mark: I totally agree. Totally agree. I’ve seen just in my personal circle, you know, extended family and stuff, I’ve seen the employment and wage-earning been way down. And I want to point out that I don’t think this is an Obama trick or something. I mean, every president who’s been in power during difficult financial times has, you know, we can spin numbers to make things look not as bad, so they all do this, but there’s definitely a lot of spinning going on right now.
William: Absolutely. I think what’s really been pontificated by the mainstream media is this: Keep calm and pretend everything is okay. I’m going to repeat that. Keep calm and pretend everything is okay. And I think that fits perfectly with the Jupiter-Saturn-Neptune T-Square that was in play all throughout the summer —
William: Nothing was okay. Everyone knows something is really wrong. They may point to it’s this or it’s that. We may not all agree on what’s wrong but we all know something is systemically wrong. And yet we have a media that says “Keep calm and pretend everything is okay.” We have people in leadership in astrology who say “Keep calm, relax, Trump ain’t gonna win, he’s not going to get it, this is all just a kabuki dance going on, and you’ll realize sooner or later that everything is okay. So calm down and listen to this voice of reason.”
William: Okay, there’re some New York astrologers out there who are saying this.
William: And when you live on a trust fund and then you get to speak how it’s all going to turn out from your NCGR podium in New York City, you can say stuff like that. But you can’t say stuff like that to people who are really suffering. And then I want to get to the next thing here.
Now, I’m just getting really sick and tired of this Hillary Clinton birth time thing. So I just said, okay. I’ve held back, Mark. I could have published this earlier but I waited for your show.
Mark: (laughs) Okay, great.
William: This Blackbox graphical analysis takes all the transits active during a period of time, and takes over 720 factors that are related to career. Including every solar arc, every progression and every backward transit. It [essentially] takes every astrological factor and then runs it against a weighing system that modifies and changes according to the [planetary weight] that compose the horoscope and then it curves and fits it and then it makes a projection over time. And what I did here is I took the three times that are listed that most astrologers are basing their predictions on — the 2:18am birth time, the 8:02am birth time, and the 8:00pm birth time.
Hillary Clinton Horoscope: 2:18 am CST birth time.
Hillary Clinton Horoscope: 8:02 am CST birth time.
Hillary Clinton Horoscope: 8:00 pm CST birth time.
And I’m going to tell you something right now. All three are indicating that Hillary is losing support as we go further into the election. Basically what I can say that is consistent about all of these graphs is that she peaks sometime around, between October 1st and October 10th, and then it’s a downward slide. And for the astrologers who are rooting for their time [of choice], her 2:18am time looks more of like a landslide loss. If she was born at 8:00 pm, which Bill Meridian has been using to a fair degree of success, it’s a loss but it’s not quite the loss that is indicated. You could argue that it could be a very close election, that it could go either way. And the 8:02 am time — and I know some people use 8:06am — certainly indicates a decisive defeat for Hillary Clinton. All three. The only one that really supports, that it might be a close election, is the 8:00 pm time, but it does not augur a decisive victory as astrologers continue to pontificate.
Here we see Donald Trump’s Career Blackbox Forecast. And that’s taking the same factors, using the same technology, using the same timeline. We see Trump going enormous volatile swings from July all the way ’til it hits bottom on the 10th of September, and then he starts climbing up. It’s a slow climb and then it really starts picking up speed from October 20th all the way to Election Day. So we’re seeing a lot of volatility, up and down, up and down, which is Trump’s number, Trump’s campaign has gone through extremes of restructuring and shifting people around, with him going back and forth on policy positions. And then he gets on message, as he has recently, starting around September 10th, and that accelerated his campaign. You can see he’s now reading from a teleprompter, he still goes off and says what he wants but he’s much better behaved. He’s a much better behaved Trumpzilla.