Group Mediumship Session Contacting the Spirits of Deceased Astrologers 1) Edward Johndro, 2) Charles Jayne, 3) William Lilly, and 4) Michel Nostradamus, Regarding the August 21st, 2017 Total Solar Eclipse.
Mediumship Readers: William Stickevers & Mari
Date of Session: June 29, 2017 1:30 pm PDT, Sunnyvale, California
Transcription by Rockets C. Redglare
WILLIAM: Nostradamus: Saturn in Sagittarius has a lot to do with the Islamic … a retro Islamic insurgency. This is an uprising in the Islamic world, signified by Saturn. This will shape the situation between Saudi Arabia, the Sunni – Shia power axis, civil war being fought out between nations now. It’s not only between groups, but there’s potential for an outbreak of a regional war between the Sunni and Shia powers and the countries that take sides. He’s mentioning Yemen and Qatar. There’s much more going on there than we know. Developments will emerge that will destabilize the region. It has something to do with oil prices.
MARI: He’s showing me Lawrence of Arabia.
WILLIAM: Lawrence of Arabia started the emancipation of the Saudis from British rule. A destabilization of the Saudi government too. They are in a shaky position, and all of this is connected.
He’s showing me a quatrain about a lion, an English translation of French poetry, a quatrain relevant to the outbreak of a possible regional war. [Background noise: Crows caw] The crows agree. And what rules the crow? Saturn.
The image of Lawrence of Arabia began the Arabic empowerment movement. So we will see that as well. Women will be involved.
He mentions a man with a blue turban… “Mahmoud” who will bring forward an imposition to U.S. policy and power, he is somebody new, that Nostradamus predicted would rise.
Nostradamus will come back later to talk about Russia.
Johndro: He’s talking about another conservative appointee in terms of global policy; a key position. This will be a big issue. It’s a second appointee. Sagittarius is a dual sign (mutable sign). The second Supreme Court appointee will work with the first to make major shifts in U.S. law, especially with regard to immigration. He’s speaking of sedition, maybe a revival of the Sedition Act.
Nostradamus brought up something like an Arab Summer. This will force the issue with the second Supreme Court Justice. They will work together to enforce banning immigration from certain countries. It will also be a kind of war powers act the President can invoke if need be, also upheld by the Supreme Court. This creates a lot of tension within the nation with the Muslim community.
MARI: Johndro is saying “Trump.” in a way that is very solid in his power. And the feeling of Mahmoud’s rise would expand and might seem like he’s in a more powerful position than Trump, but it’s more of an inflation, whereas Trump’s is more solid. So from afar it might seem like his rise is more powerful than it really is.
WILLIAM: They’re pointing out the Jupiter-Saturn sextile which has a lot to do with economy …
They put up a flag and then I know who’s talking.
British Flag – Lilly: Ninth House has to do with the courts. The President, through his executive power and support of the Supreme Court will be able to implement policies in this critical period. It’s a broadening of presidential powers supported by the Supreme Court, especially with regard to issues of sedition.
MARI: I get the visual and feeling of Trump’s agenda being carried out much more smoothly.
WILLIAM: Yes. Lilly is talking to me more like a teacher now, like this is a horary example. He does tell me that “the king” could be in great mortal danger because of the Mars. However, he’s pointing out to me that Regulus conjoins this eclipse (within orb), so he’s saying that Trump is saved by ‘the graceful hand of God.’ “The King has the mandate of heaven.”
MARI: I got a very strong indication of divine intervention.
WILLIAM: Yes, like the ‘Hand of God.’ But what will invoke all of that? He’s saying the Russian collusion drama is ‘bread and circuses.’ He’s saying there’s the possibility of a military showdown, but I’m not clear where that is.
MARI: I feel that Johndro’s trying to tell us.
WILLIAM: Persian Gulf area is a possibility.
MARI: He’s pulling my attention to near Russia.
WILLIAM: Do you see sea, air or land?
MARI: Land by the Black Sea.
WILLIAM: Crimea is showing up. He’s mentioning Turkey too. That’s approximately the area where there could be a military showdown between NATO and Russia. Johndro’s talking a lot about Russia, saying it’s getting very assertive now.
MARI: I’m getting ‘red alert.’
WILLIAM: The Russians do something, and I’m getting that Turkey is in the middle of this. Turkey is sandwiched between Russia and somebody else, so the U.S. has to take some action to rectify a situation.
MARI: I keep seeing ‘red alert’ as if something Russia’s been doing completely under cover is discovered and it’s a big threat and emergency.
WILLIAM: I think Charles Jayne is now stepping in. He’s saying, “Good work.” He’s sort of a cantankerous Libra, and he’s telling me the same thing.
MARI: He’s showing me the Middle East, and I’m hearing Saudi Arabia again.
WILLIAM: He’s telling me around this time was World War I a similar eclipse shadow passed over America, and around 1918 was the Arabian League of Nations began to form under Turkish and British occupational rule, they were basically colonies. He’s saying (and Johndro confirms) that this whole area gets re-activated, and this Shia-Sunni confrontation …
MARI: He’s bringing my attention to the lines near Mecca.
WILLIAM: Yes. It’s interesting that the Pluto geodetic line is not too far from Mecca. About 152 miles, very close. So it looks like we could see some upheaval occurring in that area. I’m getting ‘upheaval in Saudi Arabia,’ and ‘awakening of the Shia power in Iran’. Then they’re also talking about the Black Sea.
Key developments in the Middle East destabilize the whole area, especially in Iran. It will be a foreign policy crisis for the U.S. because of certain types of agreements or treaties. Many will be broken during this period which will be problematic for the U.S. to maintain its power hegemony in the region. So the U.S. is basically the power there, they have bases everywhere. And events will begin to make that very problematic.
Trump was just there and expressed concern about destabilization and possible war among the different players. I’m hearing ‘tinder box’, there’s going to be more to unfold in that area.
Nostradamus and Lilly are in some disagreement about the fate of France in particular. They’re having me look at Italy with them right now, and they’re talking about the Pope. They have some real issues with this Pope, particularly Nostradamus. They’re saying there will be some very political developments occurring with this Pope, proclamations and statements that are antithetical to true Catholicism. Nostradamus is very anti-Catholic. Lilly less, so, but they look at the Catholic Church as a dying empire. They’re saying that’s a factor that shouldn’t be overlooked, because they’re a gateway for money exchange and real estate throughout Europe which will be key to stability of long-term holdings, such as bonds.
MARI: They kept saying, “Fake leader, fake leader.”
WILLIAM: He’s almost like the anti-Pope, they think this guy is not good. They’re showing me a black pope, like an anti-pope …
MARI: They’re showing me a puppet associated with the U.S. and Middle East. There’s a straight connection from U.S. to Middle East and there’s a puppetry happening. Then they brought up ‘puppet’ also with the Pope.
WILLIAM: Again they’re saying Russia and the Baltic states too. They’re showing a lot of action ‘this area here, the Black Sea, all connected to Syria.’ It could be about the Russians doing certain military operations, and I’m getting the impression that they’re moving things in breach of some agreement or treaty. And notice that the Pluto Line is going right through Moscow. This eclipse is going to set off that Pluto.
They say that what they’re telling us does not make sense now because the eclipse will unveil secrets. Lilly says he does read the Facebook posts, especially from those who study his work. It’s like National Enquirer material. “TMI,” they’re saying. Like ‘the scoop’ on a public icon or actor, he’s stating that this kind of TMI, scandalous, provocative, secretive, covert information really comes out. So he’s talking about the ‘endangerment of the king’ or ‘fall of the king’ comes from the spies in the network, the secret assassins that serve his food, that prepare his crown, like his chambermaids. Those people closest to you. He’s saying that’s the perspective we have to have going into this period. The eclipse exposes and unveils something.
Lilly would revise his book now. Eclipses are not so dire, but they do reveal things and periods of volatility that can produce downfall. They’re showing vulnerability points, weaknesses in foreign policy will be exposed. There’s a power struggle in this region over who’s going to have control. It’s nothing new, but it’s going to reach a new level.
Again, notice this Uranus-Pluto is right over Aleppo, so they’re saying note the movements there.
MARI: I’m getting military aircraft over Russian airspace, it feels like battle. It’s not over the U.S., and it feels like American aircraft. It’s a response.
WILLIAM: I’m seeing it over this area too. They’re telling me, “Watch Iran too.” Iran feels they have a good hand now (they’re showing me a poker game).
MARI: I’m getting that they’re connected to the covert operation.
WILLIAM: BTW, the Pluto Line goes right over the capital of Turkey.
North Korea seems to be quiet. Nostradamus is telling me (He says call me Michel). He’s saying I should drink more wine for my health. He’s telling me something about France and the euro. Italy, France … I’m getting the impression of more riots in France, destabilization. I get the impression that the current president of France is going to lose control pretty quickly. He’s showing me, ‘He’s a weak man, he kisses the ring of Merkel.’ To me that means that the current leader of France is totally in line with the Eurozone. They’re telling me they want to make this a United States of Europe, like everyone’ s a state that elects politicians that goes to Brussels. The real conspiracy is the fact that every leader of European nations is working toward this one-Europe, super-state agenda, and there’s no nationalist in charge. The banks, corporations, industries want a unified national sovereign state where people are directly taxed. This is all in jeopardy now. He’s showing me something in Milan. There is some sovereign break from this that begins to unwind in this area. He’s saying it’s not over in France, and Italy becomes the next area of dramatic activity, although he tells me the French economy goes from bad to worse this summer.
MARI: When you mentioned the euro, I literally saw a boot heel crush and destroy a euro. Then Johndro was saying “Not so fast. There are protective measures associated with Germany.
WILLIAM: I think we’re going to see a lot more protests in France and Italy. “They’re going to allow the fox back into the henhouse,” so he’s showing me a change of government. There’s going to be an election. Lilly says, “Yes, they’re allowing the fox back in and he’s going to promise the moon to the people.” He says the young people put this new Prime Minister in place.
Is Britain going to exit or not? I’m not getting clarity on that. He’s saying, “On paper.” There’s no execution of the agreements. He’s saying something about the monarchy and the royal family. He talks about a ‘new king.’ Maybe the current Queen will step down this year.
MARI: Even if they do exit, they have a very strong connection to France and cannot de-link from that country.
WILLIAM: I’m asking them to look at the U.S. with us now.
Charles Jayne says Trump is going to really try to change the direction of the nation and he’s going to get his opportunity to do that. They will throw real legitimate pitches at him so he can possibly hit the ball out of the park. The eclipse is actually going to galvanize Trump, he’s using the word, ‘Rex’, like king. I’m getting the impression that Trump is going to be pretty strong although it won’t seem like that sometimes because of the events. His ability to execute will be enabled and initialized around the time of the eclipse.
MARI: He keeps comparing him to George Washington, I get, “Birth of a new nation.” And I’m seeing the spies who keep trying to undo him.
WILLIAM: I’m asking about the Deep State.
Jayne and Johndro are talking about the markets. They’re showing me new highs, but like where the water is boiling and the steam cooker is pressurized and it’s going to blow. They’re showing me this uncontainable situation in the markets.
MARI: Deep State – the visual I got was like a video game, like Trump is playing the game, he knows they’re there. Like they’re hunting him and he’s hunting them back, but he’s doing well.
WILLIAM: They talk about him ‘turning a new leaf.’ So it’s almost like he tries to be more in his center now. I see him turning over, making changes in his administration later this year. He’s going to really go more into this center, they’re telling me. He has to do that in order to ….
I’m hearing again issues with China and the markets. It’s more of an issue with China and what China’s doing to the markets. Trump comes very hard against the Chinese manipulation of the markets. He will expose their manipulations to maintain a false perception about their economy. I see this coming to a head too as a budget crisis, possibly in September.
There’s an impasse with the U.S. budget. I think they’re talking about cutting entitlements. They’re mentioning pension crises everywhere. I’m seeing S&P and massive downgrades, this is before the markets really begin to unwind. Remember how Lilly was saying, something that’s hidden will be revealed. I’m getting pensions, and municipalities and states. But the bigger concern with the markets, is this city, this state, this huge pension fund with 27 derivatives is unsolvent. He’s showing me how the markets are …. Whatever Michael Pento said, that’s what will happen. I’m hearing, “Junk, junk, junk. Junk food, junk bonds, junk country.”
I think the perception is there will be discussions of the economy’s teetering and recession, but they’re telling me it’s pretty bad, it slows down dramatically this summer. They’re saying it’s arguable now, but the plausible deniability ends.
MARI: I see Trump opening his coat and revealing the inner workings of a clock, so he’s exposing the intricate machinations of the economy. When a clock is broken, it goes ‘tick, tick, tick’, but it’s not moving forward. Trump is opening his coat like the shysters say, “Here, you want to buy a watch?” and I see Trump enjoying exposing that.
WILLIAM: I see Janet Yellen being called out and grilled, like, “You said this, and this is what happened, explain yourself.” I’m getting the word, “incompetent” from Charles Jayne. She’s a front person. And again I’m hearing, “Chinese collusion with the markets.” They say we’ll understand when it comes out.
MARI: Intercontinental internet fiber connection, I see that associated with the economy.
WILLIAM: I’m seeing the Chinese hacking the economy, the markets for their benefit. And I’m seeing an Edward Snowden face, doesn’t mean it’s him, but another character emerging, maybe inside the markets, where’s there’s an exposure of collusion going on here. And when Trump gets wind of this he wants heads. I’m getting the word, ‘Betrayed.’ I see Trump trying to patch things up with Putin, but then I see another problem where the kids aren’t behaving. The parents try to work it out, but the kids are fighting in the background.
With the Chinese I see it as “We feel betrayed with what you pulled,” and with North Korea, I’m seeing the Chinese doing nothing. But I’m not sensing any blowup over that.
Q: About the problem with Muslims, I’m not sure how deep and far it goes. Is that just in Europe or in America too?
WILLIAM: I’m seeing it happen in America too. Once the Supreme Court implements the law as Trump wants it, I’m seeing additional verdicts and decisions. This will hit the fundamentalist communities hard in the larger cities and there will be a big outcry.
Nostradamus is showing me lots of problems in France with Muslims, and in Italy as well. And there will be much more bank failures.
Q: Does the issue in France have to do with Muslims too?
This is part of a concerted effort by the Euro Elite to let them in. He’s telling me very clearly we should watch France, as the canary in the coal mine. And they’re showing me Italy is toast. He just said to me ALL of the banks in Italy are insolvent, worse than Greece.
Q: Is Europe ever going to go back to the cultural Europe it was, or is it too late?
Yes, but it’s going to be a long haul. This was put in place in the late 50s, they wanted a United States of Europe.
Q: The issue with the Pope is very interesting. They called him the black pope, the anti pope. Is he negative evil? Or just different from the Catholic church?
They’re telling me he’s not very Catholic, it’s a puppet show. I’m hearing he – Oh, this is weird. It’s almost like he’s trying to shift the Catholic religion to something that can survive this transition. He’s privy to some of the big changes coming that the elite have in store, and he believes this is the way the Church can survive and continue.
MARI: I got “Disclosure.”
WILLIAM: Nostradamus says, “The Church is dying.” He’s showing me a scene where the hero or heroine has been mortally wounded but they always keep coming back to life to sing that last aria. So he’s showing me that they are aware of that and they’re playing a bigger game. They’re trying to be this new church. Like the Soviet Union tried to transition the country into a socialist democracy with perestroika and glasnost, and it failed. It was too little too late. That’s what he’s showing me.
MARI: I’m seeing the Roman Empire merging their teachings with the pagan holidays to survive and continue.
Q: How about abortion rights for women?
WILLIAM: Johndro says, “There’s not going to be a change.” He laughed at that big protest the women had. He said it was obstructionist, to obstruct the transition of power, there’s nothing to that. He says women in the U.S. will come more into power and be in positions where when we do get a female president, she won’t be obstructed by patriarchal men. Jayne is talking to me about a female president in 2026. That’s not an election year, but it could be the 2028 election that he means.
He says it is NOT Elizabeth Warren. They’re telling me she may not even run.
I see a Black man running in 2020, possibly to run against Trump, but he’s not like Obama.
Q: So the economic implosion, will that be worldwide?
They’re telling me it starts in China. It has to do with the bonds and rate rigging. I’m getting HSBC gets really exposed where their ability to keep operating in this country is in peril. Like CNN, we knew the Russia stories were fake, it’s kind of like that. But there will be a lot of — wow the crows are cawing now – I’m seeing this issue with China. They’re showing me drunk – people drunk on greed driving the markets, with no fear. Just pump, pump, pump.
Lilly says there is a possibility that they may take out the leader. This might be an intelligence operation between the Americans and Chinese. Jayne says Trump’s got everything in place if they do something aggressive. They’re going to try to take the leader out. We might not see the continuity of a successor. It’s not clear yet, it’s like this is what they’re working on. He says the U.S. and the Chinese have operatives working there within reach of leadership. And the South Koreans have also infiltrated the North Korean government. But they can only act once.
They had people in place to take out Hitler for a year, and they didn’t try until – they only had one shot and they missed.
Q: How about global warming or cooling?
WILLIAM: Charles Jayne was a weatherman in his day.
MARI: I need time to understand what he’s giving me. All I see is tall redwood trees, and I’m trying to understand what that means.
WILLIAM: He’s showing me the sun’s level of rays will lessen, and a cooling period. This will have more of an impact than any carbon we put in the atmosphere.
MARI: It’s a sunny day and a single tree, and bright blue sky, so no clouds. It felt like it was overgrown, to be honest.
WILLIAM: They’re saying there’s going to be a lot of volatility in general with the weather, unprecedented weather patterns. I’m hearing, ‘crop failures.’
Q: How about hurricanes this year?
WILLIAM: I’m seeing Northern Florida and Georgia getting one of significance there. He’s saying that’s the one to watch. It will have a male name, it could start with an ‘R.’
I saw an iceberg when they first showed me. So, I think the general trends is toward cooling. But they’re showing me extreme fluctuations, and water issues, parched areas.
Q: I suspect that our next real major wars on this planet will be water and rice.
WILLIAM: He’s telling me water wars, and he’s telling me there’s all this oil we have that comes online next year. He says we don’t’ go into the total destructive mad max economic scenario, because we start exporting oil, and we will surpass Saudi Arabia in exports. He says this has all been part of the plan. A lot of oil wells in Montana and North Dakota, this massive oil that we’re sitting on and purposely not extracting. Canada also has quite a bit of oil they’re not tapping into either. It’s part of this strategic plan, agreement …
Q: How about UFO’s?
They’re giggling. The great threat to the Catholic Church is the UFO issue. They’re trying to move as quickly as possible. First, because this Pope didn’t get elected as in the past, it was rigged. He was briefed and the cardinals were told who to vote for. So the Catholic Church has been infiltrated by the Deep State. They’re trying to fast-track a billion Catholics into understanding the possibility of life in space. They’re talking about a global religion, kind of like Bitcoin. A Bitcoin solution to religions.
Q: That’s very Pluto in Capricorn because Capricorn rules your high-end churches like the Vatican.
Yes, and I’m hearing they’re talking about women priests and bringing gays in. They’re trying to fast-track it because they need more inclusion and they need more Catholics whose world wouldn’t be completely shattered if the ET issue is revealed. So Pope Francis has been briefed. His CIA handler was in Buenos Aires, and this is part of an initiative of the Deep State to get religious leaders moving in the direction they want them to, to the point where they start sounding very similar, and then start talking about alien life.
MARI: Yes, that’s why I was getting “Puppet.” That’s one of the big points on his agenda.
WILLIAM: They’re fast-tracking toward a super state, and they’re trying to get certain key Islamic leadership briefed on this as well. “We can’t keep this genie in the bottle anymore.”
He’s saying the Ninth House is all religions; law, religion, physics, intangibles based on some dogma. He’s saying that will be all shaken up. He’s saying this is the larger issue, the exposure. And he says, “Don’t think the war card won’t be considered. Because when all else fails, they go to war. “ So it’s not out of the question.
I’m seeing a big stadium of powers-that-be who have crossed over, they’re looking down and watching the show. This giant circular view screen that’s in 3D of everything that’s unfolding; this big spectacle. They’re also saying, “There’s going to be a lot of people who preach, like Jerry Falwell, these guys back in the 80s you never think would be in jail. They’re showing me people around Clinton stuff are going to jail. Huma Abedin, they haven’t forgotten about that one.
MARI: They’re showing me an image of all of them, everybody caught with their pants down.
WILLIAM: “Can you believe it?” “Can you believe it?” I’m also seeing movie stars going to jail. Big ones. And certain key people who are in charge of movie studios. When they step down or are forced to, it will change industries. There’s the cleaning of a swamp at the corporate and government levels, of fakes, phonies and frauds.
Q: How about Hillary Clinton?
WILLIAM: They’re telling me, “She’s on borrowed time.” I see Trump putting a special team together this December to go after the Clinton Foundation. He wants to know where all the bribe money went. There’s going to be an exposure of trillions missing, and he wants to track that. It ties into the Clinton Foundation, where it all got funneled into …. There’s money missing and it goes back to Obama’s first days. It seems like there’s going to be an investigation of misappropriations in the trillions, something like 11 trillion – a lot of money. It’s tied into the Clinton Foundation, there’s a money trail.
So Jayne says we’re supporting two civilizations, that’s the problem. This is where that money trail goes, to the second civilization, which gets more money than the primary civilization.
Could be underground cities, deep state operations, in the oceans, on the moon. There’s another civilization that’s operating.
He says there’s a reason why they call them “The Elite.” He’s showing me this Ninth House stuff gets exposed, and hard core, rabid socialist voting folks can’t even deny it. There’s something that will shake things up at the core. This is why there’s fast-tracking going on. He says this goes way beyond my understanding of things. They’re saying, “You’re going to see how deep the rabbit hole goes.” And Trump is pivotal for all of this. The financing of this country … they’re talking about massive fraud.
MARI: I see Hillary constantly deflecting, deflecting. Like she’s got a mirror and can deflect what comes at her.
WILLIAM: They’re saying to me that the numbers in the stock market don’t serve a purpose, nor are they relevant to anything that’s real. It’s completely fictitious. It’s like he’s saying, “Stop looking at that.” It’s something the masses use to rationalize that things can’t be that bad. He says if you really want to know what’s going on, look at the pensions, pension, pension, pension. That’s really the core of the crisis. He’s telling me they’re all underfunded … I don’t know. He says a lot of people think they can run a New Zealand or Australia, but they can’t.
They’re saying the cryptocurrencies … remember the gateway computer and OS2 operating systems. He’s saying we’re the Wild West of currencies, and he’s saying the block chain currency model is going to replace the fiat currency. The Deep State knows that and they’re going to play it out, like it’s the last hurrah. They’re very aware that this game is up. He says they’re not going away. He’s telling me he understands exchanges, he worked on them, and when you have people around the world exchanging this currency, it has more value. The trading of things creates its value. You could have a million dollars but if nobody’s willing to trade that with you, it’s useless. He says the IMF is going to start developing their own cryptocurrency associated with the SDR, their own blockchain. They want you to think the cryptocurrencies are going away because they will end their control.
Q: Do they have an opinion about why there is so much autism in the world?
WILLIAM: Let me ask Nostradamus because he was a doctor. I’m getting a complex set of … we’ll ask him in pictures.
I’m getting the word, “Vaccination.” It doesn’t mean all vaccinations are bad, but it’s something with mercury in the vaccinations. Vaccination policy is creating this problem.
Q: Is the global warming going to take over Florida soon, because I live in Florida?
WILLIAM: I think you need to worry more about hurricanes. They’re saying that the weather is very complex, the severity of storms of all types will increase. Jayne says this has to do with what’s happening with the Sun, and the planets. The ions and other particles. Part of the reason people are suffering from depression and having high levels of angst has to do with these changes in the weather because our brains and psyches are affected by these changes.
Johndro says, “Look more at cycles. There’s a lot of information available if you just use cycles without astrology, like the technology cycle of Uranus since it went 0 Aries in 2011. You can see all these new things now. And soon Uranus goes into Taurus. Every 84 years we have a technological revolution going on. So he says look more at cycles.
Nostradamus is talking about a spiritual paradigm shift. I’m hearing “axial alignment.”
Q: The wine he was talking about, are those grapes still being grown?
The name is what?
WILLIAM: Yes, it’s not a Bordeaux, but more southwest.
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